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Talking Shop With Ganga White
Yoga Journal Interview, Source 2001
Ganga White, founder of the White Lotus Foundation
in Santa Barbara, California, is one of America's yoga pioneers.
After years of practice and teaching and leading teacher
trainings, he remains dedicated to the freedom of inquiry
that is yoga's core.
Yoga Journal: You began practicing yoga in 1966.
How did you start?
Ganga White: I got into yoga for spiritual, mystical
reasons. I had no idea there was a physical practice. Some
of my first teachers were hatha yogis. They told me if I
wanted to see the world from a different point of view I
should try standing on my head.
Y J: Were you a natural-born hatha yogi?
GW: I would see people sitting with straight backs
for an hour. I couldn't do it for two seconds, couldn't
touch my toes. I was athletic and had won metals swimming,
but I was fairly stiff.
YJ: Has your relationship to certain poses changed
over the years?
GW: In many ways it should change each day! In the
past, I couldn't do Handstand for 10 years because of a
high school wrist injury; and now it's one of my favorite
postures. I used to do really deep backbends, and I don't
find them as necessary anymore.
YJ: What is your practice now?
GW: Yoga is the context my life is held in. My asana
practice varies. Sometimes it is what I call "inner-directed"
yoga, where I follow my own internal guidance and flow.
Sometimes I practice a fixed form, like our Flow Series.
I don't believe in being regimented. The off days are as
important as the on days. Asana practice is one of the most
important things I know-it's whole, so complete-but sometimes
a hike in the forest or a swim can be more important.
Y J: How would you describe your teaching style?
GW: I try to approach yoga non-dogmatically-in a
non-authoritarian manner. I try to balance inner feedback
with the outer practice and information. We [at White Lotus]
emphasize a flowing, vinyasa style, but see yoga as a tool
to work on your own well-being. We aim to teacher our students
to learn to develop the yoga practice that's right for them.
It will vary from day to day and year to year but also have
some common threads. Our practice has humorously been called
"ashganga yoga." We're also known for challenging traditional
sacred cows.
YJ: Like?
GW: There's a lot of emphasis now on trying to get
people to go back to "pure Patanjali", for example, but
it's very controversial as to what he actually said, who
he was, even whether or not he advocated hatha yoga! So
what you're going back to is one person's interpretation
of what someone from the past may have said. We question
authoritarian formulas from the past, present, and even
within ourselves.
YJ: What teachers have been important to you?
GW: The oceans, the rivers, fire, and my injuries.
But also Krishnamurti, Venkatesa, Iyengar, Tracey [Rich],
and many others not so well known.
Y J: How does yoga come into play in your partnership
with Tracey Rich?
GW: We're together quite a bit. We teach and practice
both together and alone. We're very aligned philosophically.
Relationship is one of the highest yogas. We treat our relationship
as a meditation and ongoing evolution.
YJ: What do you think is the greatest challenge
in teaching yoga?
GW: Getting people to let go of fixed ideas that
have been poured into them and internalized. We ant to lead
people into freedom and openness.
YJ: Have you always been adversarial to tradition?
GW: Evolutionary, not adversarial. I started out
very traditional, even got a Sanskrit name. Now I'm interested
in standing on the shoulders of the past and looking farther.
We expect to see farther than our great grandfathers in
most ways, and I think we can learn to see farther spiritually
too. The enlightenment of the past can become the limitation
of today. My advice is to avoid terminal enlightenment at
all costs.
-Colleen Morton
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